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Post by moredhel on Sept 9, 2009 0:41:03 GMT 8
Dear bros, came across this item while flipping through hypertune. Designed for the bros who don't want to spend like $1k on a piggyback and tuning but looking to improve fc and if possible some driveability on bhp and torque. Not too sure either if this item works, but in general, if you have not tuned your ecu, the stock setting as I understand it is that the air/fuel mixture is set to rich so as to prolong the life of the engine and prevent pings, knocks and overheating to minimize warranty coverage. This however, as I'm told is unnecessary as it results in carbon build up and high fc. Not too sure about the figures but thats the theory. Any bros can confirm this? What this item does is act as a mini cai cum air filter that feeds the air directly to your header air feed tube. This bypasses the MAF sensor where the normal equation of fuel to air would be F1.0/A1.0 and changes the equation to something like F1.0/A1.0+A0.2, meaning that the mix becomes +20% leaner and results in fc improvement without expensive tuning to reprogram the air/fuel ratio. However, not too sure about the price yet as have not contacted them for quote. Looking for bros who might be interested in this item to get a group buy discount. I'm estimating it's in the range of 200-300rm and only available in Malaysia. Interested bros can add your name to the list below and I"ll pm you thr price at a later date. NSP 1 GB List 1) 2) 3) 4) 5) 6) 7) 8) 9) 10) For more information, have a look at www.skylinemotorsport.com/nsp1.html |
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Post by 浪人Röηiη on Sept 9, 2009 0:55:19 GMT 8
Talk to you separately on this..
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Post by MasQueRade on Sept 9, 2009 9:46:17 GMT 8
why separately, talk here la.. Hahaha..
Bro, got any dyno graph alongwith? would appreciate if you could upload any dyno chart with the item installed!
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Post by moredhel on Sept 9, 2009 9:55:05 GMT 8
Bro, there's a dyno chart in the mag, but dunno how to transplant it here since it's like quite small in the mag too.
Not sure if their site have anot leh. Sent mail to them already. Now awaiting reply.
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Post by moredhel on Sept 9, 2009 9:56:15 GMT 8
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Post by ZayneL on Sept 9, 2009 11:22:55 GMT 8
we really need something to improve the performance of our eyes first before we can see the chart >.<  bro it's way too small to see lah  |
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Post by ZayneL on Sept 9, 2009 11:26:21 GMT 8
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Post by moredhel on Sept 9, 2009 11:26:25 GMT 8
Hi all, the cost as informed by their personnel is Rm 220, not sure if installation is included, but it looks pretty easy to install.
So it converts to about $90 bucks.
Hoping to get at least 5 buyers then ask them for discount, and probably visit their shop during jb trip see whether can get any discount. =)
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Post by moredhel on Sept 9, 2009 11:28:27 GMT 8
Yup yup. So how zayne? You interested? |
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Post by ZayneL on Sept 9, 2009 11:37:58 GMT 8
see how much the damage is around first, and does the thingy really works? >.<
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Post by moredhel on Sept 9, 2009 18:10:01 GMT 8
see how much the damage is around first, and does the thingy really works? >.< Bro, it's about 90 bucks sing. I'm still checking with them if can get any discount for qty buy. So I probably need around 5 bros. But i look at the dyno chart...i'm thinking, not bad for 90 bucks. |
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Post by ZayneL on Sept 9, 2009 22:41:51 GMT 8
ask bro ronin and bro enginenear to join too leh hehe
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Post by moredhel on Sept 9, 2009 23:24:28 GMT 8
ask bro ronin and bro enginenear to join too leh hehe Ronin still considering but might not be compatiable becoz his is already tuned, not too sure if the increase in air will mess up his a/f ratio and make it too lean. Enginenear I leave to you lah!! Who else want to join?? Quick quick!! 90 bucks for 3.9bhp increase!! Good for stock airbox and untuned vehicles!! |
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Post by MasQueRade on Sept 9, 2009 23:35:37 GMT 8
bro, why not you buy one and try first... good feedback from you then we consider.. hahahahaha...  |
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Post by nismosunny on Sept 9, 2009 23:59:27 GMT 8
Wats this thingy all about? Something like dual air intake?
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Post by 浪人Röηiη on Sept 10, 2009 0:54:37 GMT 8
ask bro ronin and bro enginenear to join too leh hehe Ronin still considering but might not be compatiable becoz his is already tuned, not too sure if the increase in air will mess up his a/f ratio and make it too lean. Enginenear I leave to you lah!! Who else want to join?? Quick quick!! 90 bucks for 3.9bhp increase!! Good for stock airbox and untuned vehicles!!
Certain parameters in our somewhat remapped brains may not be able to adapt to this add-on. Tis look like some vacuum bleeder device..
Btw, how do you calc +3.9bhp?
"How can I ever learn to calc like you?" 
Sounds familiar, isnt it? ;D
On a serious note, I've a different theory, unsure if accurate, can discuss when we meet. Remind me. |
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Post by ZayneL on Sept 10, 2009 10:25:19 GMT 8
sure... need to listen to more theory first cos there is alot of product around that cannot work in the market but still selling quite well -.-"
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Post by moredhel on Sept 10, 2009 20:13:17 GMT 8
Lol. No problem man. I don't mind trying out first coz the theory I have is quite simple. More air into a/f mix = leaner burn = fuel efficiency. I'm looking more at the fuel saving and if it comes with increased hp and better torque, why not?
I believe the fuel efficiency will be better, the hp and torque, I don't dare to make ssuch claims.
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Post by nismosunny on Sept 10, 2009 22:22:11 GMT 8
May not help much as N16 is using E-throttle. Mod to air intake may not hav any effect, unless u bore ur throttle body or installed Pivot E-Drive which u had done so.
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Post by nismosunny on Sept 10, 2009 22:35:25 GMT 8
hi moredhel, in mag there are alot of self claim fuel efficient products. All written down are only for marketing.
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Post by ZayneL on Sept 11, 2009 2:55:39 GMT 8
hi moredhel, in mag there are alot of self claim fuel efficient products. All written down are only for marketing. haiz can guess... so no hope for any of these holy FC saver products   |
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Post by moredhel on Sept 11, 2009 11:00:30 GMT 8
May not help much as N16 is using E-throttle. Mod to air intake may not hav any effect, unless u bore ur throttle body or installed Pivot E-Drive which u had done so. Hehe, bro, this item is installed to the airhose AfTeR the e throttle/throttle body. Believe it's controlled by physical vacuum to the inlet manifold with a 1 way stop valve. Yeah, I know alot of mags got things that claim fc improvement, but this one is I think think, theory wise it does make sense. However, got to look at the physical thing itself and try out first to know. Planning to ask them all your questions also... Keep the questions(ammo) coming! |
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Post by ZayneL on Sept 11, 2009 22:57:20 GMT 8
I hope this product can really work...
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Post by MasQueRade on Sept 12, 2009 1:07:12 GMT 8
i still believe, tuning is the effective way... |
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Post by ZayneL on Sept 12, 2009 3:23:58 GMT 8
but now the tuning cost 1.6k >.< cannot afford lah and somemore cannot breakeven the amount spend not worth it already.
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